Angry Issues: Do You Mind Being ‘Corrected’ At The Gym?
I’m a trainer. It’s what I do, it’s what I’ve done for over 20 years and it’s my mission in life to help others become fitter and healthier. So when I see an individual in the gym who clearly doesn’t know what they’re doing or about to hurt themselves, I will occasionally step in and make a ‘gentle’ suggestion. Bu I’m not always welcomed with open arms. Some people HATE being ‘corrected’ while they’re working out…
So for today’s Angry Issue I’d like to ask YOU – do you take suggestions from others in the gym?
Now of course I’m a trainer and I’ve had some people tell me it’s my duty to essentially police the gym floor and ensure everyone is doing the right thing. There’s only one Angry Trainer and I can’t be everywhere all the time! It’s obviously a touchy subject and some people that I’ve approached are downright rude and basically tell me to ‘kiss off.’ It seems as though there’s a lot of pride at stake when it comes to exercise routines and people just can’t take constructive criticism very well. I get it, I really do. But as I’ve learned the hard way, the best asset a trainee and trainer can have is an open mind.
Of course it’s not always trainers who are the ones dispensing advice! Often it’s another gym goer who tries to intervene and tell another trainee how or what to do. This is actually a two-fold issue. For one, I’ve had to sit there and listen to someone who doesn’t know what he or she is talking about ‘teach’ another person something totally wrong. And from a member’s standpoint, who wants to listen to another trainee dish out advice? You know this person – it’s a member who thinks he or she is a trainer and spends more time dishing advice and correcting people than actually working out. I’ve actually had one ‘correct’ me!
To be fair some gym members are absolutely knowledgeable and quite capable of helping other trainees. Maybe they know a great exercise, have personal experience with a diet plan or learned a modified way to perform an exercise due to injury. And on the flip side, as I’ve said numerous times, there are many trainers who shouldn’t even be wearing the shirt or helping anyone at all with anything related to fitness. So it really becomes a challenge for the trainee because no one likes to feel like they’re doing something wrong and they’re unsure whose advice is sound. Especially in a gym, where there are a lot of people, it kind of puts people on the spot and I think some of the defensiveness I see is just plain embarrassment.
So here’s my solution. You should take any and all suggestions in stride. You’d be surprised whom you may just learn something from. Now if someone approaches you and is condescending and rude, I’d politely say thanks but no thanks and walk away. But if their approach is friendly and comes from a place of genuine concern and a desire to help, surely a few minutes of listening can’t hurt. It’s all about the approach. I simply tell people I’d like to share something with them that I’ve learned. I actually don’t mention that what they were doing was wrong or poor, just that I have a different way that they may like. It stops people feeling like they’ve done something wrong and instead makes it feel like they’re learning something new. There’s a huge difference in the two approaches.
So how do you feel? Have you been approached in the gym by a trainer or member? Did you take their advice? Or just dismiss it? Share away…
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about 11 months ago
For me it really depends on not just the approach, but the advice as well. I’m not a trainer and if I didn’t have to start my whole career over, I’d probably become one; but I’ve given small bits of advice. Like a week ago I advised a woman how to use the rope attachment correctly for a tricep pulldown. She was going a mile a minute just pulling on the damn thing – i was waiting for her to accidently let go and have it slap her in the face. so just a mild suggestion and her reaction was ‘oh wow i feel that in the back of my arm’ – other than that im not pro so i keep it simple w/ my advice.
as for taking advice, it can be tricky. i tend to at least listen and ive done enough research, video watching (including yours – thanks for the jump rope vid) to at least have a solid foundation for what im doing. If it sounds good, then I’ll at least try to give the advice a try. If it sounds like crap then I say thanks and quickly walk away.
It mos def is a give and take. Lets face it… if you run into a douche bag, you’re not going to change their douche bag ways – let them get it off their chest and if you have to politely cut them off by saying something like “sorry my rest time is only ’00′sec gotta do another set” and get back to your workout.
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about 11 months ago
I think it’s worse when you see the “trainer” not correcting their own client. I have had people come up to me during my workout with suggestions and I agree, take it in stride, no hurt feelings, etc. Everyone is at least attempting to burn calories.
about 11 months ago
I LOVE when trainers correct me at the gym, and I really appreciate it. You tend to get into a grove, and stop the focus, and sometimes you need a knowledgeable person to give you a few pointers, and make you accountable again. Also, I don’t want to hurt myself by using equipment incorrectly. On the other hand, I am currently training for my first half Ironman, and you won’t believe the random people who give me training “tips” about things they don’t know about. I recently had a guy – let’s call him “Tubby” – be rather condecending about a 54 mile bike ride. “That’s nothing around here! (Bay Area)” he said. I wanted to retort with, “Well, jackass I’m running 13 miles after. Would you like to join me?” Instead I did the ole’ smile and nod.
about 11 months ago
I tried to help a freind once with a weight routine. What a disaster!! I knew what good form was supposed to look like and I know what it feels like for me to do it, but I just could not figure out how to get her body in the right positions. I soon had her signed up with a trainer!
about 11 months ago
Well I always listen because I’m the nicest guy on earth.
But I go really deep when I squat and one guy approached me and told a few wrong things, including that I should do a half squat and that too much depth is too risky. I do lowbar squats where I place the bar on my delt area and when my ass goes out. He didn’t like that either. Showed me his version of the highbar (half) squat.
Another guy was watching the whole thing and approached also. He told me that a friend of his is a professional and that I’m doing it the right way.
I think I’ve been approached 5x when doing the back squat, the most difficult exercise in the gym. I’ve got two correct pointers and three wrong. Whats interesting: None of the three guys liked how I go really deep for whatever reason.
But it’s one of those things you never forget. I encourge everyone to squat and get obsessed with good form.
about 11 months ago
I don’t belong to a gym so this isn’t an issue to me. However, as someone who is only 9 months into working out, I would happily take all corrections AND suggestions.
On the flip side, I hope you take time to compliment those with stellar form or the fitness badasses that look like they’re doing something right.
about 11 months ago
Well as a powerlifter I get people telling me I’m doing everything wrong such as that a good morning is done a certain way but I just listen even though I know there are several variations.. and people constantly question and tell me that chains and bands will make me slower but its actually the contrary or some other b.s. I try to help others but nobody takes me seriously because I’m always working out 50-60% of my maxes and the twice a week max effort day with random exercises that apparently nobody cares about …well I train westside barbell style. Since I only max out at a powerlifting meet nobody at my gym really thinks i’m getting any results but its up to them to realize what I do helps me get stronger and also adds mass with a 345 bench 500 squat and deadlift in the 198 weight class with only 3 years of total training under my belt (I never wear a belt by the way Ifeel like I don’t lift enough to actually need one) But its their loss.. I get the occasional person that lets me help but sadly another “trainer” tells them I gave them a load a b.s. so its like well I tried … I want to become a trainer but more of a coach ..I’m actually currently going to college to become a physical therapist
about 11 months ago
Personally, in all my years of training, I have only had one bonafide trainer approach me to give a good tip on how I could maximize a movement. Other than that (and thankfully not often), it’s pretty much dick smacks who are coming over to ‘help out the little woman’. Sometimes, I really think it’s a tactic to start up a conversation, because some of them really have nothing to offer in the way of advice.
about 11 months ago
Yep, so many wankers have come up to me ” given advice” and then asked me for my number
about 11 months ago
Why wankers? Personally I don’t approach anyone when I’m training, but it’s not like women are angels. They watch handsome guys training all the time, including me. Often I can’t even go to the dressing room when I enter the gym, without getting looked at. So don’t be surprised when some of them approach you.
about 11 months ago
Approach and knowledge are my two concerns. Sometimes I actually wish someone would show me the proper way to do an exercise, but how would I know if they know what they are talking about? Some obnoxious dude tried to give me advice the other day and he was entirely too forward and acting really strange (small gym and only the two of us in the gym), so I was very uncomfortable. I didn’t even want him talking to me, so from him, it was not welcome. But if it was someone NORMAL that I saw frequently at the gym, I would have no problem with someone tactfully explaining what I was doing wrong. Oh, and one other thing that I wouldn’t care for is someone stopping me mid-rep or mid-set. Unless I’m doing something that can cause immediate injury (which I guess all mistakes could), I would prefer if they let me finish the set and quietly chat with me afterwards. So if all those criteria can be met, bring on the advice!!
about 11 months ago
its funny b/c the other day I was working out and it was just me and one of the trainers working out – it was her free time – and I was so paranoid the whole time that I was going to do something wrong and she would step in – I just had a training session and he corrected my form on some stuff especially new stuff – so I by no means think I’m an expert, but for some reason it is really embarrassing to be called out doing something wrong – as weird as that is!!! but at the same time I want to do it right, so after that day I realized that if it should happen I would take it gracefully and learn from it and not be a baby!!!
about 11 months ago
I have never been approached in a gym for someone to correct my form, maybe that is an American thing?
The only time when I have been corrected has been in classes, where yes it is kinda embarrasing at first but you soon realize that noone would ever dare to laugh because they all know they are not perfect.
about 11 months ago
I was just talking about this with a friend … although I am not a trainer (I’m in the process of my cert) there is a woman at my gym who cranks up the incline of her treadmill all the way, holds on for dear life, and leans back to walk the entire time. It makes me worried for her! I have debated whether or not saying something about it …
Personally, I have only been corrected when I asked someone to check my form. I wouldn’t mind if someone corrected me because I want to make sure I am doing it right … both for maximum efficiency and safety.
about 2 months ago
Depends on their attitude. I had a woman come correct my form and I thanked her but explained I was doing some range of motion things. She was a little insistant on my form, so I showed her my arm and left her speechless for a moment. I have a non-union above my elbow that isn’t fused (car crash) and while my arm bends, it’s not at the elbow. Functionality trumps form for me, since most things I can’t do to form. She ended up being very pleasant to talk to and it made me feel good.
Now the guy who I heard telling a girl that cardio doesn’t burn fat, it burns muscle …. he needed to be ejected from the gym!
about 2 months ago
I used to work out in a workplace gym and on a few occasions I’ve corrected trainers working in there (always discretely, as I did not want to discredit them in front of clients) because a few of them were providing incorrect coaching to clients on the rowing ergometers. I simply explained that I used to row competitively in university, and that they way they were instructing clients to sit was going to undoing strain their backs. One was really appreciative and the other got downright angry.
Generally, I like getting advice. The only time I didn’t appreciate advice was in a public facility, when the guy started talking to me in the middle of a movement, when I very obviously couldn’t concentrate. 10 seconds later I could have listened safely, but not in the midst of an exercise. Personally, I don’t provide any unasked for advice, unless I see something that I think is patently unsafe, because I don’t know what their goals are and what their limitations are. Some things that look strange to the average gym rat are physiotherapist-directed exercises!
about 2 months ago
It is all in the delivery. Sincerity is appreciated, and I can take the advice with a grain of salt. You can always learn something new.